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Samwise Everquest
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Posted - 2014.08.24 03:04:00 -
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The problem is there is no incentive to join the losing side. There is no cap on a militia. The entire server could enlist in Gal mil, this is a problem. Yes EvE is a sandbox but even a sandbox needs a structure to keep it from spilling over. Sucks because I like Gal Mil for RP purposes but I'll be damned if I am any part of a zerg. Instant gratification WoW players are ruining one of the coolest parts of EvE, FW. |
Samwise Everquest
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Posted - 2014.08.28 20:35:00 -
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Rahelis wrote:My bad - I was in cal mil 2 years ago - I should have wrote that.
Believe me - we tried to explain why plexing is important - we did a lot.
Xgal,
we all know that.
you are definitely right on that. people just look for fight and log. the people who dont need isk, which was apparently my alts entire alliance, would never be caught plexing. all in all FW promotes zergs and joining the winning side. it promotes farming instead of pvp. again fw is currently just a non meaningful perma wardec between a winning side and a losing side. noone in their right mind would NOT join gal mil. there is no reason not to unless you want to be the underdog.
edit: there is no logical reason to join calmil unless you want to fight an uphill battle. there is nothing to stop the entire player base from joining one side. that is a problem. |
Samwise Everquest
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Posted - 2014.08.30 05:23:00 -
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Over the past months many caldari casuals re-enlisted as gal because there was no incentive to stay t1 and out numbered. It didn't take long for people to realize there was no reason to fight against a zerg of rabbit plexers so might as well reap the rewards of t4 and the uncontested life. So in a way, CalMil beat Calmil. |
Samwise Everquest
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Posted - 2014.08.30 05:37:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Samwise Everquest wrote:Over the past months many caldari casuals re-enlisted as gal because there was no incentive to stay t1 and out numbered. It didn't take long for people to realize there was no reason to fight against a zerg of rabbit plexers so might as well reap the rewards of t4 and the uncontested life. So in a way, CalMil beat Calmil. We welcome the fact that many separatists have decided to rejoin the Federation. Amnesty will given to all that join the Federation and help our cause.
just sucks when people ruin the best part of eve. your idea of fw is to win by any means necessary even if that means taking in former competition as allies. different strokes for different folks but id like a more meaningful fw where its a constant struggle/balance between the factions and where taking over a system isnt something that can be done with an alt in a naked ship. I guess I want FW to work more like teams pvp than just pick w/e side is winning and farm the hell out of it.
I am starting to think the whole LP incentive needs to be taken out. pve should not be the deciding factor in a pvp teams environment. and yes FW generates alot of pvp but thats lowsec in general. its easier to get into smaller fights without bubbles and other bs mechanics. any newb can fly a frigate in lowsec and get in some pvp.
being able to switch militias in itself kills my immersion. as a mild RP (prefer gal ships and lore) it really pisses me off that my favorite faction is the zerg atm. i cant enjoy the game because of it. militia switching farming ******* get the **** out of GAL MIL. i am about to be FORCED into joining calmil just so i dont feel like a piece of **** for taking the easy rode and re-joining the winning side. |
Samwise Everquest
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Posted - 2014.08.30 16:38:00 -
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Deacon Abox wrote:[quote=Lupe Meza]We held out against a huge zerg of plexing alts for months. Our current population advantage is slight in comparison, Samwise you whiner. This sweep of the warzone was not the accomplishment of a zerg of farmers as you put it. Farmers do not contest home systems and bust hubs. They had a part to play but were nowhere near enough alone to accomplish the goal. And our offensive "plexing alts" have had to have some teeth to take uninhabited systems this go round. Then we successfully mounted pvp sieges of the Calmil home systems.
My main was in gal mil when it was the underdog, it was great and fun times. Even thought CalMil was t3 or whatnot I never felt like it was so unbalanced that they could sweep the warzone with little effort. Jump a year or two later and yes, hardly anyone in calmil gave a ****. the major alliances in CalMil talked more about nullsec and other non low sec bullshit more than FW. not once did I hear on comms to deplex our home system, hell i dont even recall them telling us to O plex either. my alt was in DT and the majority of the time they were on was spent roaming looking for pvp or political bs about nullsec.
another thing i saw while on my alt was that none of the corperations or alliances for that matter worked together. never would you see DT and templis flying together. we didnt defend each others home and whatnot. calmil has no organization and like the guy said above me, noone cares about occupancy except the new bros and a few heroes like my alts self who spent more time plexing down systems we owned then probably my whole alliance (DT.)
I wish they cared but most dont. On average I'd say we were losing at least a pilot a day to gal while I was active. I could post a dozen eve mails if i reactivated the alt account where people specifically said they were defected to gal mil because there was no point in staying on the losing side when they can do the same thing in galmil at t4. |
Samwise Everquest
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Posted - 2014.08.30 16:47:00 -
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I am the type of gamer who likes to be on the losing side but I at least hope for a fighting chance. In EverQuest I played on a deity based pvp server called Sullon Zek. It had 3 "teams", good, neutral, and evil. You could only have one character per account so whatever team you picked was your team forever unless you deleted your character and started over. I did that when after months of playing as a neutral, I saw the good team was completely outnumbered. I deleted my character (which in EverQuest was a pure grindfest for anything) and rerolled a good guy. In WoW I made sure I joined the side with the fewest people which on Frostmane was the Horde at the time. ect ect ect. I am a gamer who likes a challenge and nothing makes me madder than a bunch of team flippers riding on the coattails whichever team is winning. Especially when they brag later like it is some kind of achievement they earned. They ruin the game imo for anyone trying to play this game for entertainment and a challenge.
I am also a light RPers. Not that I pretend I am really Samwise Everquest but I tend to fly Gallente ships ONLY. I mean ive tried all the other ships and have skilled in them but I was born and raised gallente so I like to stick with my kind. The fact that my RP side and my underdog side are conflicting make FW bitter sweet for me. My heart wishes the Federation success but my brain wants a good fight as the underdog. Maybe I just need meds :)
tldr To all the people who join the winning side, FU :) |
Samwise Everquest
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Posted - 2014.08.30 17:20:00 -
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I think a lot of newer GalMil want to feel like they accomplished something far greater than what actually happened. You cannot use logic friend or even facts for that matter. Everyone spins everything, welcome to EvE. |
Samwise Everquest
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Posted - 2014.08.30 23:14:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Samwise Everquest wrote:I think a lot of newer GalMil want to feel like they accomplished something far greater than what actually happened. You cannot use logic friend or even facts for that matter. Everyone spins everything, welcome to EvE. Running an offensive for two weeks nonstop in three different areas of operation is quite a feat. All the players on the Gallente side know how difficult it really was, even if the final two systems were pretty much a cakewalk. We basically did Huola, but 1) it was over several systems and not just one, 2) we actually won, and 3) it was nonstop. The Amarr Huola campaign lasted 2-3 days each week before they had to take time off the rest of the week.
Historically fighting a war with 2 fronts is suicide. I think this statement shows more of weak the Caldari State is atm than how much work it took from the Federation to win.
I just need to put this disclaimer. I love GalMil and specially XG. I think I've had you on +10 standings since the 2nd day I was in FDU. You, Deen, as well as the old school QCATS/JUSTK members, I respect you all a lot so don't confuse my posts with hating. It is no secret, GalMil is a fuckin powerhouse atm.
I've actually never enlisted CalMil on my main because honestly I hate Caldari from an RP perspective and more importantly I love Gal ships (7 mil sp in drones yall.) I am considering it tho, I hate how lopsided the warzone is. If I must I will betray my beliefs just to fight for the weaker side. |
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